That’s me in the corner. That’s me in the spot-light. Losing my religion – REM
I was born into a religion, a strict one that limited a lot, including me.
Caveat: This is my own experience, I don’t claim anyone else’s experience, but there are many like myself.
This is my story, it is not written to denigrate anyone else’s story or beliefs. We all have differing experiences and stories, just as we have different beliefs and morals. We own our own.
This blog post will include critical elements about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
I don’t need anyone to bear me their testimony, or tell me I’m wrong. When it comes to religion and spirituality our choices, beliefs, and testimonies are personal and valid. No one is right or wrong.
This is also not an attack on Mormons. Most of the members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints that I know, are lovely people with incredibly good intentions.
I’ve had a few friends ask me about my current relationship with religion, but it’s too big a subject to answer in a quick note. Religion has been a major part of my life. But my views changed as I came to terms with the beliefs I’ve been brought up with and my authentic self, and I’m now more mentally and emotionally healthy with a real sense of freedom and joy.
My father was Catholic and my mother, Pentecostal. Mum’s dad was a preacher, and she was brought up with an overriding love and devotion to Christ. My dad’s family, stoic Catholics, had a Madonna Bleeding Heart statue in their home, that both fascinated me and weirded me out at the same time. In practise, both Christian religions were very different which left my parents looking for a way to consolidate the two, something to make life logistically easier. Not long before I was born, as the 1970’s began, missionaries from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints knocked on their door, and they let them in.
Dad committed to stop drinking alcohol and smoking, which was a prerequisite to join the church. And he did, overnight, never to touch either again. Mum was more reserved in her reception, but as someone who barely ever drank and despised smoking, she was overjoyed at this change in her husband, who had had an issue with alcohol and smoking for most of his life. She rebutted the idea of the founder of the religion, Joseph Smith, for a long time. It disappointed her that this church spoke more of him at the time than of Jesus, and she struggled with new scripture, The Book of Mormon, but she came around, and along with Dad accepted the invitation to baptism.
Mum mourned the loss of the joyful Pentecostal singing that she was used to, and she struggled with the reliance on new scripture in addition to the Bible. Dad slipped into their new church wholeheartedly never looking back after they joined, studying, accepting, and embracing everything and it brought him much happiness.
My parents became devout Mormons, and I was brought up in the religion from birth. As a family we attended church every Sunday, and lived its teachings to default. My older brother left when he was around seventeen. He chose to live a life where his ethos was that everyone should try everything at least once. He tried a lot! He never wanted to return to religion preferring philosophy and life. My other siblings also left the church in their late teens too when my parents moved away.
© Lisa Shambrook
I was, however, the proverbial good girl, the one who tried to hold things together. The one who was terrified of guilt, of being alone, of being lost, even though I spent most of life feeling inherently lost. It should be pointed out that I am autistic. I did everything to fit in, to be good, to keep rules, routine, and order, and to believe what I was told by those older than me (That also lead to naivety and gullibility, and being assaulted, but that’s another story). I believed – I fervently believed what I was taught.
I was spiritual at a very emotional level. I got great joy out of reading about Christ’s life, loved moving into deep doctrine and philosophy, and I loved talking about theories, existential things, and beliefs. I’m an empath, I feel deeply, I feel others’ emotions, and the way this church, and many others, teach is emotion based.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints espouses itself as the one true church, with the only direct authority from God on this earth, and the only church with living prophets. It asks you to read The Book of Mormon in its entirety, then to pray about whether it’s true, and you base your testimony of the scripture and the church on that, on the emotions that you feel. I later learned about confirmation bias, conforming, indoctrination, conditioning, and moulding people then I understood how some religions operate. If you are brought up to fundamentally believe something is true then when you ask and pray about it, the odds are that you will get a good feeling, which is interpreted as a positive answer – a confirmation of truth.
The Mormon Church is exceptionally well organised. With teaching programs built by a church education board that begin at nursery age through childhood, then at twelve-years-old there are youth programs, separated into Young Women and Young Men until eighteen. Plus from the age of fourteen to eighteen teens go through seminary, four years of intensive scripture based study, after or before school, accompanying the years you are taking GCSE’s and A-Levels in the UK. I followed these scripture courses, studying the Old Testament, the New Testament, The Book of Mormon, and The Doctrine and Covenants, The Pearl of Great Price, with Church History for four years, giving me an additional hour long class one evening a week and four hours more of homework, all on top of normal school. You are required to learn and quote scripture, and graduate at eighteen. Years later I sent my children to, and taught, early morning seminary four or five days a week. It’s a heavy responsibility and an incredible pressure on teenagers, and parents. I struggled through those years as a parent, and not sure my kids enjoyed it much either.
© Lisa Shambrook
I felt very isolated and misunderstood as a child and teen. Only a few of my classmates were openly religious or from religious backgrounds, which is alienating when your life is so different.
As a teenager it got harder. I was lucky I had a close group of church friends, who supported each other as much as we could. I also loved my school friends. The church restricted dating until we were sixteen, but I still had crushes, fell in love, felt everything, only forbidden to act upon it. The differences became more apparent as I got older and desperately tried to fit in. Clothing had to be morally acceptable – no strappy tops, no shoulders showing, no short skirts, and no tight jeans. No smoking, drinking, or tea or coffee, no sex before marriage, or any kind of sexual contact. It was difficult as a teen to fit into this life. As I reached sixteen and seventeen, I developed two lives, one in church and one outside. I could swear outside, but not at home, and I allowed my emotions to run wild, and be something of myself outside with friends, and ignore church doctrines and morality clauses altogether with those I fell in love with.
© Lisa Shambrook
My boyfriend, when I was seventeen, was interested in my religious background, he even came to church with me once, and attempted lessons with the missionaries. Then one day John said something which I’d never considered. We sat on the beach and he took my face in his hands and said, “You only believe what you do, because you’ve never known anything different.”
It would be years before I truly understood what he’d said.
Our relationship slipped away, and broke my heart. At that point I threw myself into church life, trying to heal the hurt, church friendships grew and outside friends slipped, which I was always sad about. My mum went inactive at church at this point, which shocked me, and made my dad so sad. I took Dad to church and listened as he wept about her not coming with us. It impacted me greatly. I also fell in love again.
Vince and I met at church and married when I was a week off twenty-years-old. The church believes in marriage for all time and eternity, which was an idea I’d always embraced and loved, so I was excited to get sealed together in the church’s temple. We went through the endowment and marriage sealing a year after we were married, but I struggled greatly with the secret/sacred signs and rituals within the temple (much of which is pulled from Freemasonry which was a large part of Joseph Smith’s life),that I didn’t go back to the temple for over ten years.
Vince became my everything, and as quite an obsessive person I threw everything into our marriage, and became very dependant. After we’d been married for two years, we moved away from our home town and took our three-month-old baby with us to Wales. We lived in a new town knowing no one and the only connections I made at the beginning were at church. For my entire twenties I lived and breathed religion, learning more, accepting callings to teach, and to lead, even with three small children. I made friends and fervently taught my young family all I was supposed to. My health, mental and physical suffered, but I was committed and dedicated to my religion.
I did everything the church asked. I worked hard and earnestly until I was forty, but my emotional and mental health was problematic. I had panic attacks regularly at church, and my anxiety on Sundays was sky high. I’d been diagnosed with chronic depression from the age of eighteen, and I’d been on and off antidepressants the whole time, with no recognition of my autism.
Just before forty, I took stock of my life. Things didn’t feel right. My oldest was reluctantly attending church after having had what we considered a rebellious stage. It was more than that, but we tried to ignore it and strongly encouraged them to find a testimony of the church. One of the intrinsic teachings was that families could be together forever, in the afterlife, but that blessing would only come to fruition if all the family members were worthy in the church. When a child left, members were often comforted with the reassurance that because they had been brought up with correct principles, they would ultimately return. I felt an enormous pressure to keep my children active. When my oldest was nineteen, they finally said they were going to stop going to church. Instead of being scared for them and their salvation, I was surprisingly relieved! I knew they hated it and it felt wrong to them. I saw how happy they became and wholeheartedly supported them. I didn’t want them to come back! I finally recognised that I’d been trying to hide my own doubts since I was thirty-five.
I tried to ignore my own doubts, which was something the leaders of the church, from the top down, encouraged. Very quickly though, it became apparent that my youngest was also not interested, though she was only thirteen and I remember telling her she had to attend until she was eighteen before she could make her own choice. I’m really sad that I did that, pressuring my own children to attend something they didn’t want to. That wasn’t my place, especially as I was fighting my own questions too.
In my forties I accepted positions in leadership and teaching to try to suppress my own misgivings. I taught seminary for four years, rereading all the texts, and teaching two youth, including my youngest. It became more and more apparent as I studied again that my questions were growing, my doubts were pushing forward, and the things I was reading weren’t helping me.
The Old Testament threw me with its violence, and a grudge holding, vengeful God. I’d been taught that the Old Testament God was Jesus Christ, and that temperament did not match the Jesus I knew. I found that I could not take the stories literally, and saw them as allegories, but often problematic ones. The New Testament did similar with its teaching beyond those of the first four gospels of Christ. The Book of Mormon was an interesting read, but threw up more questions, especially about racism, which as a seminary teacher we were encouraged not to give opinions about, but to say we didn’t know why the racism was there, only God would know why certain things were done, and it wasn’t our place to ask why. These issues were compounded intensely when I read The Doctrine and Covenants, which I found not only boring and repetitive, but also introduced further moral issues and teachings.
At this point I had to relinquish my callings, as I had no surety, and I had questions I wanted answers to. I couldn’t teach the church’s intrinsic homophobia to teenagers, or racism, or accept that women were not equal in the gospel. I tried to get an appointment to talk to my Bishop about my concerns, but none was forthcoming. I asked to talk to leaders, but no one offered. The Mormon Church prides itself on being open, or I thought it did, I was always taught that questions were healthy and encouraged. But it seemed only positive questions regarding joining the church or learning more were encouraged, anything about doubts were not. A church authority who I deeply respected, President Dieter F. Uchtdorf, even quoted in a General Conference, ‘Doubt your doubts before your faith.’
There were no answers. I tried to find my own, whilst I tried to doubt my doubts. I did what I was supposed to do – I went to the official church website to find answers. We were religiously (pun intended) taught not to search outside the church for answers, as we would find non-church safe answers… So, I searched church archives. In 2013 the church published essays on several problematic church subjects. I read them, but instead of finding answers, I just discovered more and more uncertainties and questions.
I’d had a general dislike of the church’s history with polygamy, but it was an old practise and had no place in the present church. Now I learned how it came about and what it entailed – things we had never been taught – including the founder and first prophet Joseph Smith marrying fourteen-year-olds and other married women, and I felt even more uncomfortable. I learned, contrary to what I’d been taught, that most of his translation of The Book of Mormon was done letter by letter appearing on a seer stone, banded iron jasper, Joseph had dug up years before, while he peered at the stone inside a stove hat. I read about the papyruses that Joseph bought from a tradesman, and then purported them to be Abrahamic and from the life of the Old Testament Abraham. Facsimiles were printed in the church’s scripture, The Pearl of Great Price, of these papyruses after Joseph translated them at a time when no one could translate ancient Egyptian Hieroglyphs. When the Rosetta Stone was discovered and people learned Egyptian Hieroglyphics, it was proven that these papyruses were actually ordinary funerary papers of ordinary Egyptians, nothing to do with biblical Abraham, and Church scholars have accepted this, yet still they are taught as canon and appear in sacred text. There were so many more issues, with DNA from the Book of Mormon people claims, the First Vision accounts, and much more.
It was that point that I left the official church site… there are plenty of places to find documentation and recorded history that perhaps the church chooses not to include in its teaching of church history. I learned that Joseph Smith had a recorded history as a con man (or juggler as was the term in those days) using seer stones in hats, and treasure seeking to raise money from unfortunates who believed he would dig out the treasure he told them about.
I didn’t even need to read the CES Letter – I had enough misgivings from the church’s own information sites. So, when I finally did get to speak to the Stake President, the leader in charge of my wider area of the church, he had no answers either. It’s all about accepting and having faith, and in some instances hoping the church will alter its position on things like homophobia in the future.
It was then that I read about the Church finances, which was a recent story in most newspapers. A whistleblower revealed that the church had hidden reserves of money in slush funds. They were investigated by the US SES (Senior Executive Service, part of the Federal government), and in February 2023 fined $1m and the church financiers fined $4m for purposefully hiding $32bn in 13 different accounts. One reason given was that the church didn’t want members to know of this huge reserve of cash, because it might put members off paying tithes and offerings.
I already had a major issue with the law of tithing, the church doesn’t need our money, and neither does God for that matter. They had already had way more than 10% of our time for decades. To be a worthy member the church requires 10% of all income. There are plenty of other financial outlays too. We used to travel 36 miles each Sunday to get to church each week, plus more for other meetings. Youth activities, camp, EFY etc cost a lot, and Missions are pushed hard to all youth these days, but are almost pushed as compulsory to boys. Two years away from home preaching as missionaries for the church, but self-financed, currently costing each missionary and their families around £8k. All this for a church estimated to be the wealthiest church in the world, worth over $100bn.
It was enough to push me away. I actually felt foolish for having believed so much of what seemed like a business, like a con. So I left and later resigned my membership. Immediately after I left I felt relaxed and comfortable. In the church one of the things you are taught is to stay away from places that make you feel uncomfortable… meaning bars, clubs, pubs etc, but for me I’d been uncomfortable at church for so long, and the relief at not having to go was considerable! That’s not to say it didn’t cause issues, church left me with a huge amount of ingrained guilt, or fear, and of gas-lighting which took several years to overcome.
© Lisa Shambrook
Many people within religion find it hard to accept that people leave, and it’s been said that people only leave because they’re not strong enough to resist temptation, or to live the doctrines, or just want to go and sin… which isn’t true. The most common reasons for people leaving churches are apathy – just having no motivation to continue, conflict with doctrine – finding you cannot support a church that teaches homophobia for example, or conflict with the history of the religion – which leaves members feeling deflated and deceived. It’s incredibly difficult to leave a faith that you’ve been taught all your life. There’s a lot of grief, guilt, anger, and conflicting emotions as you adjust, find out who you are, and what you believe.
After I discovered who I was, and that the church wasn’t for me then I found all the things I missed. And I found that life was much more relaxed and much more enjoyable. Now I can live my life as myself, as my authentic self. I can wear what I want, go where I want, drink, get tattoos, and have more than one set of earrings, lol… I can live with healthy boundaries and in the present, not worrying if what I do will affect what happens to me in the afterlife, if there is one. If there’s a God in Heaven, I’m pretty sure they still love me, and if there’s not then it doesn’t matter.
I’m still working out where I am on my spiritual journey. My sanctity has always been found in family and nature. One of the things that tied me to my religion was that it was touted as a family oriented faith, but the servitude, meetings, and callings of the religion took so much time out of our family. Having ordinary members, unqualified laypeople, run a religion is exhausting mentally and physically, and incredibly time consuming, and became something my children heavily resented. I have since found holiness in other ways.
I’ve always felt very spiritual, but my spirituality moves in a more natural pagan way – affirmations, mindfulness, feeling sand beneath my feet, walking through rippling waves on the edge of a beach, listening to the wind rustle through trees, staring up at the moon or myriad stars, kicking through fallen leaves, walking on soft bouncy moss, and seeing the sun throw its rays through tall trees to create a temple within the forest.
The best Sunday morning worship for me is to walk through the forest and bathe in rays of celestial sun light, and listen to the hymns sung by the birds. The sacred nature of the earth, the strength of the rocks, the trickle of living water, air filling my lungs as I gaze up into the sky, and the fire of the sun, moon, and stars are the only church I need.
Salvation comes from living a good life, not a perfect one, but a life where we learn from our mistakes, and where we enjoy what we have. A life where we prioritise people, all people, no matter their creed, colour, ability, gender, or sexuality, and all have equal status and chance at redemption. I’m happy if people wish to live with a faith, sometimes that’s what people need to keep them inspired, but for me it’s all about the salvation of humanity by humanity. I want a world where compassion wins over duty, where equity victors over prejudice, and unconditional love defeats privilege and control.
The sort of world that should be the basis for all religions.
© Lisa Shambrook
My religion is nature.
That’s what arouses those feelings of wonder and mysticism and gratitude in me.
– Oliver Sacks
The Last Krystallos 
Well done Lisa. Finding TRUTH from out of the self promoting mumbo jumbo of Religion is quite a release. Findiung a good alternative that encompasses all Humans with their frailties and offers acceptance is amazing after your own particular journey.Enjoy nature and the fact it doesn’t tithe you.
Hugs
It wasn’t easy, David, but nature offers me all I need and more, I can still give thanks for its abundance and beauty, and find both holiness and peace.
Fascinating- I had a mormon friend who died of breast cancer a couple of years ago leaving 7 kids. One of them is still friends with my youngest. They often asked him to go to church with them on a Sunday. I always refused. I’m glad I did. She gave me a book once & I read just the introduction & I knew it wasn’t for me. Hubby is an atheist.
But more wealthy than the Roman Catholic church? With all the wealth of the Vatican? I find that hard to believe. Many religions/churches are set up to create a tax haven. It’s one of their biggest motivations. My born again evangelist brother’s church is all about the money – & tell them all people are born wretched & they need to be saved, which is the worst kind of lie. It’s all a con.
So pleased you’re on the other side of it. Xx
You’d be surprised at the amount the church has amassed, Miranda. The Mormon Church has 17m membership, and it requires 10% tithe. Obviously not all those will be tithing, a large amount will be inactive and not in attendance. But tithing alone brings in a huge amount. It also owns a surprising amount of land across the world, it’s one of the biggest landowners in the US, owns huge businesses and stocks and shares.
When you Google the wealthiest Church online the Mormon Church comes up first almost every time. It’s estimated at $100bn, but many speculate $300bn might be more likely. It was open with its finances until 1959, but since then has refused to say what it has publicly.
I know the Vatican is wealthy too, no idea which is actually the wealthiest!
I’m glad I’ve removed myself, it’s helped lessen my anxiety and I feel much happier. It’s difficult to move away from something you grew up with, as you know, but more and more people are doing it with religion, and feeling liberated!
Yes I suppose if I think about the land owning in the US – my friend was American – it does make sense, & they were definitely always money focused with their businesses. I really think of they changed the laws to tax them out would change a great deal.
I’m glad you liberated yourself. Xx
I can relate to you falling out of an organized religion. Once I read that the Bible was written decades after the crucifixion from oral tales, and that bits were chosen by a bunch of old men to be included in the New Testament, and my priest couldn’t tell me if belief in reincarnation was a heresy, I lost all faith. I’m a happy atheist now, and it’s much harder following your own rules, but you are in charge of your own life. I have my speech prepared if I am wrong. “Sorry God, but you should take part of the blame for my disbelief. You gave me the brain to reason and question and the will to accept or deny. OK. so I’ll cheerfully admit I got it all wrong, but just pass me a harp and point me to the cloud and I hope you will forgive me as I did try to live the very best life I could.” It’s a bit of a gamble but I do so admire you for having the strength. (Also I was certain you lived in Alaska and not Wales!)
I love your reply to God, it’s all about being free to choose, and we have to ultimately trust ourselves. Which is also an answer many religious people give for believing too. It took a lot to walk away, to feel comfortable enough to leave decades of teaching behind and walk my own path, but it’s the right one for me!
(Sometimes it’s really hard to realise where people live online, lol!)
I must say Lisa I find after reading this that I find it very hard to believe that it’s not an attack on The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I am glad that you have found something else to bring you peace and ease your depression and anxiety. Some find it in religion some find it outside of religion but neither ways should be attacked. I am blessed because I have found it in both my religion and nature and everything it entails. I have sat in church and felt great peace and comfort and I have sat on top of mountains and walked through forests and found the same great peace and comfort. Everyone’s experience and beliefs are sacred and important to them so let’s respect everyone’s beliefs no matter what their choices are. I know some people who believe religion is a waste of time and effort and I know some people that believe that looking after the environment is a waste of time and money. I just let them believe what they believe neither condemning or supporting.
I have also had the privilege of living for 35 years out of the church and 27 years in the church. Life experiences in both has helped me to understand which option gives me the most peace, joy, good health mentally and physically and I have based my choice on my experiences. My husband is not a member and he is choosing not to join the church because he is happier where he is and for that I love him more. He has witnessed at first hand what religion has done for his family and loves that too. I guess he has the best of both worlds.This life is far too short to be pointing out the flaws and disadvantages of how others and how they choose to live their life.
I appreciate your comment, and candid reply, Angela, it’s not an attack at all. I wasn’t pointing out flaws or choices of others, I make it clear that I respect others’ views, choices, and beliefs. I can only comment on the church organisation itself, how it affected me, and the things that lead me to my own decisions, which is what I did in this piece. The church itself, not the people, not the members, did not ultimately live up to what it preached for me. I felt trapped for a very long time, and leaving was done with considerable searching and thought, as demonstrated with the reasons I give for leaving. I tried to find answers within the church for over ten years to no avail.
I’m so glad you find happiness in it, so many do, and that’s their prerogative and joy. I didn’t in the end.
I also realise it’s hurtful for people who love the church to read why others don’t. With this in mind, it took me a long time to be able to write my own experience and share it. I don’t want to hurt others, but I also need to protect myself and live my truth. And it’s valid for me to share that.
I won’t change the minds of those who have a strong testimony of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, but there are also many who will resonate with my experience too, both are valid and can live together. I don’t mean to offend, and definitely don’t want to lose my friends who I value very much, including you. I have found a different path and am so happy, and likewise I’m so happy that your path brings you joy! x
Thank you so much for sharing. As a former member of the LDS church, I see so many echos of my own experience. Especially the struggle to repress doubts and the eventual freedom and joy that come from living authentically and discovering who we are outside of repression and fear. I was honored to read your story and I’m glad that we are both now on better paths.
Thank you, Elisabeth, it makes a huge difference to me to know I did not go through those feelings alone. Finding my authenticity after so long was liberating and beautiful! x
Fantastic story of how you found yourself. I’ve always been told and believe that man created religon not God. Well done for living your own truth. xxx